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		<title>The brain runs in four dimensions?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 19:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Raghav Gupta</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uptil yesterday, I used to think that thinking in 4 spatial dimensions is a purely analytical play (and &#8220;Time&#8221; as the 4th dimension never seemed intriguing enough anyway). But I just finished reading &#8220;The Möbius Strip&#8221; by Clifford Pickover, and now I believe I am actually able to mentally and somewhat visually integrate at least [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=raghavgupta.wordpress.com&blog=767067&post=11&subd=raghavgupta&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Uptil yesterday, I used to think that thinking in 4 spatial dimensions is a purely analytical play (and &#8220;Time&#8221; as the 4th dimension never seemed intriguing enough anyway). But I just finished reading &#8220;<a target="_blank" href="http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/mobius-book.html">The Möbius Strip</a>&#8221; by <a target="_blank" href="http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/home.htm">Clifford Pickover</a>, and now I believe I am actually able to mentally and somewhat visually integrate at least some key concepts. Now I not only accept, but also understand why two infinite planes which intersect each other in our 3-D world, could actually be non-intersecting planes in a 4-D world. The book has many other such amazing concepts explained with remarkable ease, and is highly recommended for the spatially inclined. If you are an origami aficionado, it is a definite must read.</p>
<p>There are theories out there that electricity, magnetism, gravity, and all the invisible forces are manifestations of the unseen 4th dimension. Sounds plausible enough. But String Theory is said to include 10, 11 or even 26 dimensions. Just like our 2 intersecting planes in 3-D can be made non-intersecting by adding a 4th dimension, it appears physicists keep adding an extra dimension to their theories to &#8220;get around&#8221; every new spatial incongruency they encounter in their thought experiments.</p>
<p>The inevitable questions..does &#8220;intelligence&#8221; have anything to do with all of this? Does it &#8220;emerge&#8221; by way of some unseen interaction in the 4th dimension. Is this why despite the hundreds of thousands of hu-man-hours spent pondering this problem, we have not been able to truly emulate a high form of intelligence? Does it mean that because of this extra-dimensional dependency, we will never be able to grasp the real mechanism?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m certainly not convinced that the brain&#8217;s functioning is somehow dependent on a 4th spatial dimension with a separate manifestation over and above the basic forces of nature (electricity, magnetism etc). I think &#8220;massive parallelism&#8221; is basis of the the complexity (quite a traditional view) that we are unable to overcome in our thought experiments. In fact, massive parallelism is the cause of the complexity in everything science is not able to do well today. The weather, fluids, the stock market, are all examples of systems where a huge number of entities comprise the system, and most of them are in turn dependent on even more other types of variables.</p>
<p>The problem in understanding our own brain&#8217;s function, I believe, also stems from some kind of innate capacity limit upon an intelligence trying to fathom its own composition.  For example, by my definition, to be called an “intelligence”, it must be &#8220;aware&#8221; of itself, or rather, of &#8220;something&#8221; that it perceives to be itself. What form that “itself” takes is the crux of the matter. If someone built a computer simulation of an intelligence which solves some problems given some reward/pain stimuli, imagine what it would look like if this intelligence suddenly understood its own construction! This would mean that it has become &#8220;aware&#8221; that it is a piece of software code which runs inside a computer. But get this, this would mean that it also understands what &#8220;software is&#8221;, and even what a &#8220;computer&#8221; is. This would imply that at the instant of its birth, it is pretty much as intelligent as the average hu-man!</p>
<p>For those that have pet dogs, I’m sure they appreciate the levels of emotionally complex and intelligent behavior these animals are capable of. They are all “intelligent” beings, and also self-aware. But does this mean that every dog out there primally understands that the seat of its intelligence lies in a glob of soft matter just behind its eyes? Certainly not. Even in hu-mans, most likely this knowledge is usually gained by virtue of the education system. To be a successful self-aware intelligence, it need not imply being aware of the low level physics of the awareness.</p>
<p>Imagine if a particular hu-man suddenly becomes fully self-aware. He can close his eyes, and look at his brain solve a mathematical problem, while solving it. Neurons are firing left and right for solving the problem, chemicals are rising and ebbing in tiny but significant portions, but at the same time this same brain is also looking at itself doing all of this activity. This act of “looking” would also cause various other neurons to fire, which would then need to be looked at as well. Sounds recursive, doesn’t it? I guess this is why I always get a headache whenever I contemplate this stuff too much.</p>
<p>A simple way to get out of this recursion would be to get a hu-man A to look at the brain activity of another hu-man B. As soon as A’s brain truly understands what is going on in B’s brain, it means A’s brain is able to simulate B’s brain to completeness, all the while still retaining the identity of A. This happening can only mean that A has a vastly more architecturally complex brain than B (not just higher IQ, but structurally more advanced). This means that the above scenario is not possible where A and B are both hu-mans.  To grasp why this must be generally true, think what would happen if while A is looking at the activity of B&#8217;s brain, B turns around and starts trying to follow A&#8217;s brain. Have you ever pointed a live video camera at the TV it is connected to? In summary, I theorize that:</p>
<p>a) To observe and understand an intelligence of complexity X, we would need another intelligence of at least complexity X^2. </p>
<p>From which follows the corollary:</p>
<p>b) If an intelligence A is able to comprehend another intelligence B&#8217;s construction, it automatically means that B can never hope to comprehend A, no matter how hard it tries.</p>
<p>Where does all of this take us? I think it means that we will never be able to simulate human intelligence at the drop of a hat, or by turning on a computer and running a program, because only an intelligence vastly more complex than humans can do that.  A complete human like intelligence, if it has to run on different hardware than hu-mans themselves, will HAVE TO BE EVOLVED. And since we cannot replicate the hu-man hardware, the intelligence MUST EVOLVE DIFFERENTLY. As controllers of the hardware we will initially retain god-like status in controlling the direction of the evolution, but we will never know what lies next. Inevitably, one fine morning, a surprise will await us all.</p>
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		<title>What&#8217;s next for the hu-man race?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Raghav Gupta</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man is nature&#8217;s supreme creation. It took evolution billions of hu-man years to achieve this level of perfection. The question is.. what lies next?
Is it heading anywhere at all? Does it need to head anywhere? Maybe we are already perfect and there is nothing more to be gained by further individual enhancement?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Man is nature&#8217;s supreme creation. It took evolution billions of hu-man years to achieve this level of perfection. The question is.. what lies next?</p>
<p>Is it heading anywhere at all? Does it need to head anywhere? Maybe we are already perfect and there is nothing more to be gained by further individual enhancement?</p>
<p>If we were to evolve, what would it be? A larger/denser brain in proportion to the rest of the body? Or will one day a child be born who grows up to have a usable set of wings on his back?</p>
<p>But what if our mental capacities have already advanced so much that we have in effect taken control of our own evolution? Survival of the fittest certainly no longer plays a very strong role in human reproduction. Is it not possible that we are actually de-evolving because natural selection is violated so grossly in the human species compared to all the others? Or is it possible that because of our innate goodness in saving the doomed, it actually prevents our gene pool from getting stuck in a local maxima, and thus provides an ever widening tapestry from which a seriously more advanced species could one day spring forth?</p>
<p>What about the notorious &#8220;human-computer&#8221; interface, certain to happen in the next few years? Will that be a moment accepted as the next step in the &#8220;evolution&#8221; of the human race? Men, women, children all extendable, enhanceable with off the shelf kits pluggable directly into a usb 6.0 connector in the belly button.</p>
<p>It is easy to imagine that most of these kits will have some &#8220;intelligence&#8221; of their own, to make their control interface as intuitive and adaptive as possible. But could one day a &#8220;brain extender&#8221; kit be sold as well? Plug it in, and after a few minutes of training, perform complex mathematical calculations just by thinking. The answers will just appear as images out of nowhere.</p>
<p>Is this really a &#8220;brain extender&#8221; or is it just a calculator with an enhanced interface? Should they be treated different?</p>
<p>How about a &#8220;memory extender&#8221;? Something that allows recall, at will, of certain real observed events. But what about memories generated from non-observed events, like dreams? And what about the memories generated from learning how to solve a complex puzzle? I doubt this is going to happen for a long time.</p>
<p>And, of course, what about the famed &#8220;singularity&#8221;? Is it something &#8220;bound to happen&#8221; as per the laws of nature and evolution, or is it just a pipe dream? If it took Man billions of years to evolve as he is, why should it take intelligent machines only 50-100 years to reach beyond him? The only way nature would allow it is if the machine was indistinguishable from the offspring of man. The intelligence of man evolved in conjunction and as a consequence of the included body, so why should nature endow a machine with the same or higher intelligence, but without mandating a similarly or more capable &#8220;container&#8221;.</p>
<p>There is a seemingly easy answer to the above conundrum. If, even for a fleeting duration, someone somewhere creates a truly intelligent entity, then it will be clever enough to do something to ensure its own survival. The proverbial electrification of the power cord to prevent its being pulled out by a puny hu-man. The singular event which will raise the hair on the back of the scientist&#8217;s neck, when he suddenly realises what happened. The birth of the hu-machine race.<br />
Yes, this will happen one day. The hu-machines will engage in a struggle with the hu-mans, if only to steal the right to build a better &#8220;container&#8221; for their &#8220;brains&#8221;.</p>
<p>If someone someday claims to have built a true intelligence, then his/her claim is false if the above struggle does not ensue soon thereafter.</p>
<p>How is our evolution to be defined then? Can silicon diodes and transistors be the successor to the hu-man race?</p>
<p>Possibly the hu-machines are created at a time when carbon, not silicon, has become the dominant computing element. Perhaps every chip is modelled as a cell with a genome, and reproduction is afforded by means of visiting a replication facility (aka a breeding site programmed in before birth, always reachable by following the magnetic lines generated from the poles of the earth). Millions of hu-machines wills simply inject their genomic code into a receptor wall, and the &#8220;creator&#8221; will proceed to randomly combine the donors into mates and create an offspring genome, and push the code into the factory&#8217;s manufacturing queue.</p>
<p>Now why should this new intelligent race should be billed as the &#8220;successor&#8221; to the human race, on the evolutionary spectrum? Rather, I believe, that when this new race does become a reality, it will pose the first real threat to the dominance of mankind, and THAT is what will quickly press the natural selection trigger in the human race. Whosoever has a way of dealing with the machines, will have the upper hand, and those who don&#8217;t, well, good luck.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does the brain exist and evolve to prolong the survival of the body? Or does the brain use the body to prolong its own survival? Or are they one and the same thing and should not be discussed as two separate entities?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Does the brain exist and evolve to prolong the survival of the body? Or does the brain use the body to prolong its <strong>own</strong> survival? Or are they one and the same thing and should not be discussed as two separate entities?</p>
<p>Hypothetically, is it possible to &#8220;evolve&#8221; a brain as complex and intelligent as a human&#8217;s, without attaching it to a human like body?</p>
<p>On the flip side, is it possible to create a human like body and expect it to survive out in the world, without providing it with a human like brain?</p>
<p>To me, asking questions like these instantly exposes the flaws in traditional AI techniques. Everything that has been built so far, learns only because it is force-fed information that we want it to be able to process.</p>
<p>If it doesn&#8217;t care about life and death, can it learn?</p>
<p>If it doesn&#8217;t yearn, does it learn?</p>
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